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This episode of Um, Actually, the college humor quiz show about correcting fandom trivia, gives the name of Tobias from Animorphs as "Tobias Santorelli". This is not the thing intended to be corrected, that's some other nonsense; they apparently thought that was his real name when writing the question.

Problem: we mostly don't know the Animorphs' last names. We know Jake's (Berenson), and we have strong reasons to expect Rachel's is the same (they're cousins and their fathers are brothers), and of course Ax's full name is never secret, but we don't know for Cassie, Marco, and Tobias.

(Some people think Tobias' last name is Fangor. It's an understandable mistake, that was the legal name of his ~biological father, but Tobias doesn't have the name of his biological father but rather that of the man his mother married afterwards, who is not known)

I looked it up, and found a handful of websites mentioning "Tobias Sirinial Santorelli" as his full name. I know why Sirinial, but where the fuck do they get Santorelli from? Seerowpedia reminds me there is in fact a character named Santorelli in canon, he is a super minor guy who shows up only in the last book.

So I'm thinking, did someone make up a fanon name for Tobias that somehow spread? Who? Why? And then I find this, and I know exactly who and why.

That is a wiki for Neomorphs, a post-canon fanfic that continues the plot of Animorphs past book 54. In it, minor character Santorelli gets developed a bunch and among other things, retroactively becomes Tobias' stepfather via time travel shenanigans (time travel shenanigans are a major aspect of Animorphs). So, in that fic, his surname actually is Santorelli.

Here's the fun part: I had already read Neomorphs, many years ago, back when I was active in the fandom. I know the guy who wrote it, we were in the same forum. I think at one point I did beta reading for his original fiction. All this knowledge was in fact hidden somewhere deep inside my brain, but I could not unlock it.

And somehow it went from a fanfic name to a fanon name to someone mistaking it for a canon name when writing questions for a fandom trivia quiz youtube show.

bonus: chat log record of me realising all this in real time:

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ok so imagine there's a strap-on with a reservoir where one can load a semen sample in and ejaculate it during PiV sex, potentially impregnating their partner. the semen sample need not be theirs, right, so in principle this divorces "the person who had sex with someone's mum to conceive them" and "the person who gave them half their DNA via sperm". And if you'd ask me who the biological father of the resultant child is, i'd argue it's whoever's semen was in the reservoir, not the guy who had sex*

ok, now imagine the semen sample has somehow been synthesised in a lab combining the DNA of various people rather than coming from a specific person. this complicates our inquiry into the concept of "biological fatherhood" even more, right. you could say all those people are collectively the biological father, or that going by DNA share they're more like grandparents or great-grandparents or whatever, or that really we should abandon the concept as irrelevant. But you still wouldn't call the strap-on guy the biological father (for simplicity we're stipulating he's none of the DNA sources). if he raised the kid, you might call him the father on that account, but if he didn't then he's sort of just... an enthusiastic artificial inseminator, i guess.

...

so in conclusion this is why i think it's incorrect to say Elfangor-Sirinial-Shamtul is Tobias' father in any meaningful sense


*potential complications if the sperm donor isn't a man but setting aside those for the moment

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